#me_irl now that I’m seeing all these people in my circles posting about how they’ve suddenly discovered that maybe James Raggi is maybe not the greatest person.
Shocked, I am. Shocked.
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Right? So weird!
Hah!
He helped me get an art grant when I really needed the money help… so I guess a little good can be found in anyone.
Emily Vitori That’s good to hear.
Nobody is all good or all bad. We’re all a mix. But good people try to become better.
Sure, and bad people listen to a transphobic father figure who tells them to clean up their rooms and think it’s profound.
That came out a lot cheesier than I meant to.
Martijn Vos It was well-intentioned. No sweat.
Not arguing the other things as I’ve seen the controversy around him here for a while now… I just wanted to put that out there as that’s the one experience that I’ve had with him personally.
I was briefly a LotFP fan back when I was into the OSR. Once I saw how willing Raggi was to set up house with one of the shittiest people in the hobby — and advocate for him — I ditched it and him.
The over-the-top gore of the line also seems incredibly juvenile to me now.
There was a point in time where LotFP was actually on the leading edge of innovative in the OSR space. Now with games like Black Hack and Into the Odd et al really pushing the envelope it has become the crusty great uncle who still thinks he’s cool.
There’s a lot to like about the way he runs his business. He’s willing to give people a chance, gives them a lot of freedom, and he pays them well. The quality of the art is outstanding.
But his reliance on shock value can get a bit overboard, to put it mildly.
Martijn Vos Sure. Honestly, I think LotFP is a very good OSR game. Ditto ACKS. But hell if I am going to give them my money.
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I don’t see Raggi as bad so much as foolish. His enthusiasm for edgy shenanigans, shock for the sake of shock, is stronger than his willingness to stop and think through consequences. Unfortunately the kind of audience who lauds such spectacle is increasingly one with “freeze peach” attitudes.
Is there something that happened to cause this reaction right now in particular?
Raggi posted a picture of himself with transphobe Jordan Peterson, then deleted it and “apologized.”
He apologized for posting the picture, though, not for, you know, the real reason people were mad. It was literally “oh i should have kept my transphobic role models under wraps!”
How embarrassing for him.
I mean, broadcasting you’re a fan of Peterson should be embarrassing, like posting a profile picture which accidentally reveals that you watch Simpsons porn. He’s the hero of the cheeto-fingered, basement-dwelling masses.
I mean he is evil, but he’s also just super pathetic.
I guess evil and super pathetic mashed together is what America’s all about these days.
(Also, isn’t Peterson all about a certain kind of macho piety? Old-fashioned manly virtue and such? Isn’t that kind of off brand for Raggi?)
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“Evil and super-pathetic” describes LotFP pretty well, I think.
Mark Delsing I don’t have strong opinions for or against the games I guess.
I played that game once and I didn’t get the joy it gets. I rolled my dice and had no signal on what I should be, since a) my stats were all average with one weakness and b) I was told not to rely on my existing D&D knowledge, and that stats didn’t matter as much. So I wound up totally confused about what to do. I wound up picking a class (I can’t remember what) based on what I would do if I were in D&D.
Then the excellent GM* did a bunch of cool shit with NPCs and a monster that felt like it came from him.
Then we never played again.
I don’t get it.
* Vincent!
D&D knowledge, and that stats didn’t matter as much. So I wound up totally confused about what to do. I wound up picking a class (I can’t remember what) based on what I would do if I were in D&D. Then the excellent GM* did a bunch of cool shit with NPCs and a monster that felt like it came from him. Then we never played again. I don’t get it. * Vincent!]]>
Ed Heil Just making a funny. It’s a good OSR game.
Robert Bohl FWIW, I ran it with “Death Frost Doom” once at Forge Midwest and the table basically agreed it was pretty meh. Granted, I may just suck as a DM.
But did you have dripping dick-stirges and vaginogolems? If you don’t, it’s not LotFP.
Aaron Griffin DFD is strangely tame in that regard, at least the version I used (pre the revised one). But it’s a shitty dungeon, for sure.
Its been pointed out that the best course for PC’s offered a LotFP dungeon is to refuse to enter at all, since they’re all just elaborate set-ups to gory “gotcha” punchlines, with little to no outright rewards.