Frozen was our family movie night yesterday. My son seems to enjoy it, but my wife and I were pretty bored. It felt like forever for the film to get going, and lots of the musical numbers felt forced. You know, like they knew they’d be adapting it for Broadway so they had to pack in lots of set pieces. Even my son, at one point, asked why Anna “is singing the same song over and over.”

It got better once the “core team” was together — Anna, Kristoff, Sven, and Olaf. But it still was kind of all over the place for us. And I also felt like the film didn’t know whether it was about Anna or Elsa.

Mostly we’re stunned this was such a worldwide success.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_%282013_film%29

36 thoughts on “Frozen was our family movie night yesterday. My son seems to enjoy it, but my wife and I were pretty bored. It felt…

  1. I chalk it up to the song Let It Go. Apparently after the directors got that song from the Lopezes, they rewrote Elsa to a co-protagonist instead of a straightforward villain.

    Personally, I appreciate a “princess movie” that’s about the bonds of sisterhood instead of finding your man.

  2. < ![CDATA[I chalk it up to the song Let It Go. Apparently after the directors got that song from the Lopezes, they rewrote Elsa to a co-protagonist instead of a straightforward villain. Personally, I appreciate a "princess movie" that's about the bonds of sisterhood instead of finding your man.]]>

  3. As in the formal structure of the work. All that stuff that makes it sounds like a musical, which might seem kind of mannered and weird.

    On the thematic front, it’s only been five years but we’re already “ho hum, patriarchy, whatever.” That’s awesome. It’s hard to overstate how revolutionary this was, for fucking Disney, to put out there. Disney, which is almost singlehandedly responsible for the vast Princess-Industrial machine that has loomed over every American girl since Snow White. I’m not sure Brave or Tangled or Moana could have thrived without Frozen paving the way.

    Or it might just be that it has one kick-ass song and a nice story about sisterhood in the face of douchey guys, and that won’t resonate in a dude-majority household.

    Also: I’m really high on cold medicine right now.

  4. < ![CDATA[As in the formal structure of the work. All that stuff that makes it sounds like a musical, which might seem kind of mannered and weird. On the thematic front, it's only been five years but we're already "ho hum, patriarchy, whatever." That's awesome. It's hard to overstate how revolutionary this was, for fucking Disney, to put out there. Disney, which is almost singlehandedly responsible for the vast Princess-Industrial machine that has loomed over every American girl since Snow White. I’m not sure Brave or Tangled or Moana could have thrived without Frozen paving the way.
    Or it might just be that it has one kick-ass song and a nice story about sisterhood in the face of douchey guys, and that won’t resonate in a dude-majority household.
    Also: I’m really high on cold medicine right now.]]>

  5. S. Tan yes! And Elsa still has that strong potential to be the villain right up to the point where she’s all in on joining up with Anna. That moral ambiguity is strong stuff, especially in context of a Disney movie and extra especially after the reveal.

  6. Paul Beakley Understood, but the dude-household thing doesn’t apply. My wife was more bored than I was. And Henry loves shows like Spirit and Luna Petunia.

    Brave and Tangled pre-date Frozen, FYI.

  7. < ![CDATA[S. Tan yes! And Elsa still has that strong potential to be the villain right up to the point where she’s all in on joining up with Anna. That moral ambiguity is strong stuff, especially in context of a Disney movie and extra especially after the reveal.]]>

  8. < ![CDATA[Paul Beakley Understood, but the dude-household thing doesn’t apply. My wife was more bored than I was. And Henry loves shows like Spirit and Luna Petunia. Brave and Tangled pre-date Frozen, FYI.]]>

  9. Can I also say that Hans getting punched and falling into the water is straight out of Caddyshack? I The Simpsons have even parodied how cliche that is.

    That said, Kristen Bell was great as always.

  10. < ![CDATA[Can I also say that Hans getting punched and falling into the water is straight out of Caddyshack? I The Simpsons have even parodied how cliche that is.
    That said, Kristen Bell was great as always.]]>

  11. < ![CDATA[Mark Delsing well, no worries, I'm not gonna try to yum your yuck! It obviously worked for people who aren't you. "Stunned" just struck me as a bit strong, is all.]]>

  12. Cons: the villain comes out of nowhere (to me the turn didn’t feel credible), the songs are all concentrated in the first half of the movie, and that whole part is a rather long introduction to the story with a lot of exposition. The story takes long to get going.
    Pro: it’s a story about princesses and not about princes, and while I often can predict what’s going to happen, frozen surprised me more than a few times, I thing it openly challenges various tropes of the classic Disney movie

    Also xD
    https://youtu.be/Zb5IH57SorQ
    youtube.com – Honest Trailers – Frozen

  13. < ![CDATA[Cons: the villain comes out of nowhere (to me the turn didn't feel credible), the songs are all concentrated in the first half of the movie, and that whole part is a rather long introduction to the story with a lot of exposition. The story takes long to get going. Pro: it's a story about princesses and not about princes, and while I often can predict what's going to happen, frozen surprised me more than a few times, I thing it openly challenges various tropes of the classic Disney movie Also xD https://youtu.be/Zb5IH57SorQ
    youtube.com – Honest Trailers – Frozen]]>