When the dust settles, we have 100% of the Executive Order we originally wanted, we’ve tested the loyalty of a department we’ll need later on, we’ve proven we can ignore an entire branch of government, and we’ve slipped in some subtle moves that will make the next test even easier.

I’m stunned that I’m living to witness America’s first coup.

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40 thoughts on “When the dust settles, we have 100% of the Executive Order we originally wanted, we’ve tested the loyalty of a…

  1. < ![CDATA[The more that I come to believe that that's what we're seeing, the more I expect to see a military coup take things back and restore the constitution. I hope that's not just naieve.]]>

  2. Tim Koppang I think we’re well past incompetence.

    Christopher Weeks If we’re lucky, that may happen. But I don’t really believe in luck. Honestly, I think a military coup dismantling the Constitution is more likely.

  3. < ![CDATA[Tim Koppang I think we're well past incompetence. Christopher Weeks If we're lucky, that may happen. But I don't really believe in luck. Honestly, I think a military coup dismantling the Constitution is more likely.]]>

  4. Mark Delsing, assuming Trump has a mater-plan to take over the country is also potentially dangerous. Devil’s advocate: let’s assume he doesn’t. Giving his supporters reason to believe we’re nut-job conspiracy theorists legitimizes Trump because it de-legitimizes us, and not just with his diehard supporters. I think the article’s best advice is to defend the institutions of the government.

  5. < ![CDATA[Mark Delsing, assuming Trump has a mater-plan to take over the country is also potentially dangerous. Devil's advocate: let's assume he doesn't. Giving his supporters reason to believe we're nut-job conspiracy theorists legitimizes Trump because it de-legitimizes us, and not just with his diehard supporters. I think the article's best advice is to defend the institutions of the government.]]>

  6. Joseph Teller, sure, but so what? The effect is the same. Look, I’m not saying that fear is unhealthy. Just the opposite. But I am saying that we need to exceptionally clear thinking because, if the situation is as fragile as you assume, then a wrong move is going to be catastrophic. I’ve known a hardcore conspiracy guy, and he ended up being right about one or two things, but no one would listen because the other 98% of the time he was so far wrong, he was out in cuckoo land. You want people to listen to you? — you have to maintain credibility and relateability.

  7. < ![CDATA[Joseph Teller, sure, but so what? The effect is the same. Look, I'm not saying that fear is unhealthy. Just the opposite. But I am saying that we need to exceptionally clear thinking because, if the situation is as fragile as you assume, then a wrong move is going to be catastrophic. I've known a hardcore conspiracy guy, and he ended up being right about one or two things, but no one would listen because the other 98% of the time he was so far wrong, he was out in cuckoo land. You want people to listen to you? -- you have to maintain credibility and relateability.]]>

  8. I think it’s dangerous to enlarge Trump and his cadre into fiendish geniuses. It dangerously weakens your understanding of your own collective power to do that. With Trump and his cadre, only two things matter: outcomes, and intent. Whether the construction of the ban was fiendish genius, intended to discover loyalties and the limits of power or not is irrelevant. The fact is their execution of it did reveal those things. That’s the outcome. They know those things now. They’re not stupid enough to not know those things. And they’ve demonstrated that they’re relentless enough that their future actions will leverage those things. And their intent. Their intentions are also clear. They will do the things Trump said he’d do on the campaign trail. They will move forward on selling off the National Parks. You don’t need to enlarge them into fiendish geniuses to be able to predict their intent. The thing is, both sides are learning things. The activist resistance learned things as well. From my perspective, the activist resistance did something far more difficult than the Trump cadre. Trump’s epic accomplishment was getting elected. Since his election the epic accomplisements have been by the activist resistance.

  9. < ![CDATA[I think it's dangerous to enlarge Trump and his cadre into fiendish geniuses. It dangerously weakens your understanding of your own collective power to do that. With Trump and his cadre, only two things matter: outcomes, and intent. Whether the construction of the ban was fiendish genius, intended to discover loyalties and the limits of power or not is irrelevant. The fact is their execution of it did reveal those things. That's the outcome. They know those things now. They're not stupid enough to not know those things. And they've demonstrated that they're relentless enough that their future actions will leverage those things. And their intent. Their intentions are also clear. They will do the things Trump said he'd do on the campaign trail. They will move forward on selling off the National Parks. You don't need to enlarge them into fiendish geniuses to be able to predict their intent. The thing is, both sides are learning things. The activist resistance learned things as well. From my perspective, the activist resistance did something far more difficult than the Trump cadre. Trump's epic accomplishment was getting elected. Since his election the epic accomplisements have been by the activist resistance.]]>

  10. Tim Koppang How do I express my concerns, then? The entire election, people constantly underestimated Trump. “He’s just incompetent.” “No way he can win.” And then he did, and now we have some random nutjob that no one elected — Bannon — basically in charge of the free world. When do I get to be paranoid?

    Don’t forget that Trump has planned massive military spending — the biggest buildup since Reagan. Is it really irrational to be concerned that the military would side with him if things go south?

  11. < ![CDATA[Tim Koppang How do I express my concerns, then? The entire election, people constantly underestimated Trump. "He's just incompetent." "No way he can win." And then he did, and now we have some random nutjob that no one elected — Bannon — basically in charge of the free world. When do I get to be paranoid? Don't forget that Trump has planned massive military spending — the biggest buildup since Reagan. Is it really irrational to be concerned that the military would side with him if things go south?]]>

  12. < ![CDATA[Paul Czege "Since his election the epic accomplisements have been by the activist resistance." Beyond obstructing traffic at airports, what has the activist resistance accomplished so far?]]>

  13. Mark Delsing, express away! Please. No, really. I say this without reservation or irony. The more we express our concerns (outrage), the better. What I’m saying is that there is no need to jump to conclusions about an unconfirmed master-plan. The reality of what’s in front of us is more than enough for now. I shouldn’t have said “just” incompetence in my original post. That was a mistake, and sounds like I’m being dismissive. Not my intent.

    Edit: see also Paul’s response above.

  14. < ![CDATA[Mark Delsing, express away! Please. No, really. I say this without reservation or irony. The more we express our concerns (outrage), the better. What I'm saying is that there is no need to jump to conclusions about an unconfirmed master-plan. The reality of what's in front of us is more than enough for now. I shouldn't have said "just" incompetence in my original post. That was a mistake, and sounds like I'm being dismissive. Not my intent. Edit: see also Paul's response above.]]>

  15. I don’t particularly like Trump and I didn’t vote for him, but a lot of the vitriol, hyperbolic rhetoric, and blanket opposition aimed at him by his critics tends to trigger an enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend reaction in me, so I can only imagine how his actual supporters feel. So much anti-Trumpism just seems so incoherent to me, e.g. some of the same people who a few days ago were saying that the correct response to alleged Nazis is direct and immediate violence are now cheering the ACLU who famously defended the rights of actual Nazis to have parades.

  16. < ![CDATA[I don't particularly like Trump and I didn't vote for him, but a lot of the vitriol, hyperbolic rhetoric, and blanket opposition aimed at him by his critics tends to trigger an enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend reaction in me, so I can only imagine how his actual supporters feel. So much anti-Trumpism just seems so incoherent to me, e.g. some of the same people who a few days ago were saying that the correct response to alleged Nazis is direct and immediate violence are now cheering the ACLU who famously defended the rights of actual Nazis to have parades.]]>

  17. Dan Maruschak I think this is uncharted territory for most Americans, and so emotions are running high and reactions are fast and furious.

    I definitely feel torn. When do we stop looking at things dispassionately and take action? I’ve been reading a lot of articles about how we need to stop painting this as “us vs. them”, but I don’t know how millions of dissatisfied people re supposed to be able to do that.

  18. < ![CDATA[Dan Maruschak I think this is uncharted territory for most Americans, and so emotions are running high and reactions are fast and furious. I definitely feel torn. When do we stop looking at things dispassionately and take action? I've been reading a lot of articles about how we need to stop painting this as "us vs. them", but I don't know how millions of dissatisfied people re supposed to be able to do that.]]>

  19. I support the ACLU’s proper stance that the government must not ban Nazi’s right to march. I also support anyone who decides to defend themselves with violence against Nazis who are plainly acting out in a way that they have not for many years. I don’t see any conflict at all in these stances.

  20. < ![CDATA[I support the ACLU's proper stance that the government must not ban Nazi’s right to march. I also support anyone who decides to defend themselves with violence against Nazis who are plainly acting out in a way that they have not for many years. I don’t see any conflict at all in these stances.]]>