I’m no fan of Millenial-bashing, but this is troubling.

That trend is particularly strong among young people. For instance, in a previously published paper, the researchers calculated that 43 percent of older Americans believed it was illegitimate for the military to take over if the government were incompetent or failing to do its job, but only 19 percent of millennials agreed. The same generational divide showed up in Europe, where 53 percent of older people thought a military takeover would be illegitimate, while only 36 percent of millennials agreed.

36 thoughts on “I’m no fan of Millenial-bashing, but this is troubling.

  1. At least in the US, I know we’ve had the government repeatedly tell us we can militarily intervene in other countries’ governments, and that the military is the best of the best never wrong, never to be questioned… so… is it any surprise of generations’ of that propaganda sinking in to being applied at home?

    Of course, the other half of it is the combination of terrible education and media – the idea of checks and balances and rule of law has been shot through between failing to teach it and our politicians openly able to say whatever or suggest or create policy without it.

    If you can declare someone an “enemy combatant” by secret court, have them stripped of rights, no habeas corpus, then kept in a secret prison for “enhanced interrogation” – the idea of rights, rule of law, or open information simply isn’t in operation – and this is what we’ve accepted as a normal for our society. Of course, maybe we can go talk about it in one of the designated Free Speech Zones or something.

  2. < ![CDATA[At least in the US, I know we've had the government repeatedly tell us we can militarily intervene in other countries' governments, and that the military is the best of the best never wrong, never to be questioned... so... is it any surprise of generations' of that propaganda sinking in to being applied at home? Of course, the other half of it is the combination of terrible education and media - the idea of checks and balances and rule of law has been shot through between failing to teach it and our politicians openly able to say whatever or suggest or create policy without it. If you can declare someone an "enemy combatant" by secret court, have them stripped of rights, no habeas corpus, then kept in a secret prison for "enhanced interrogation" - the idea of rights, rule of law, or open information simply isn't in operation - and this is what we've accepted as a normal for our society. Of course, maybe we can go talk about it in one of the designated Free Speech Zones or something.]]>

  3. Look at all the hatred and anger that people on the Left have been producing against Donald Trump and people who supported him.

    Now imagine if the military stepped in and offered to take control of the country and put Hillary or Barack in charge.

    There would be a lot of people who would support that, I think.

    The more people feel like the system is producing unacceptable results, the more likely we are to experience an anti-democratic shift

  4. < ![CDATA[Look at all the hatred and anger that people on the Left have been producing against Donald Trump and people who supported him. Now imagine if the military stepped in and offered to take control of the country and put Hillary or Barack in charge. There would be a lot of people who would support that, I think. The more people feel like the system is producing unacceptable results, the more likely we are to experience an anti-democratic shift]]>

  5. < ![CDATA[Greg C The more people feel like the system is producing unacceptable results, the more likely we are to experience an anti-democratic shift
    Forget the angry Left. This pretty much explains Trump.]]>

  6. It is always easier to see the splinter in the eye of your enemy than the log in your own.

    Or something like that. Jesus was onto something with that. Even an atheist like me can give him that

  7. < ![CDATA[It is always easier to see the splinter in the eye of your enemy than the log in your own. Or something like that. Jesus was onto something with that. Even an atheist like me can give him that]]>

  8. Say what you want about Trump supporters, they voted. They used the democratic process that exists.

    If more Democrats had voted, Hillary would have won. But too many stayed home.

    Clearly the huge number of people who stayed home feel the system is broken in some way

  9. < ![CDATA[Say what you want about Trump supporters, they voted. They used the democratic process that exists. If more Democrats had voted, Hillary would have won. But too many stayed home. Clearly the huge number of people who stayed home feel the system is broken in some way]]>

  10. If you want to say the Electoral College is anti-democratic, thats fine. But it has only been mismatched to the popular vote a tiny number of times when the result is very close.

    The lack of voters voting is a much bigger problem, in my opinion. It shows despondency

  11. < ![CDATA[If you want to say the Electoral College is anti-democratic, thats fine. But it has only been mismatched to the popular vote a tiny number of times when the result is very close. The lack of voters voting is a much bigger problem, in my opinion. It shows despondency]]>

  12. I suspect this maps rather well to measurable declines in social capital in the US (Putnam, etc). I wince though when I see Venezuela or Poland being held up as having been well-functioning democracies. Also both states had horrible human rights records in both the 80s and the 90s, regardless of regime.

  13. < ![CDATA[I suspect this maps rather well to measurable declines in social capital in the US (Putnam, etc). I wince though when I see Venezuela or Poland being held up as having been well-functioning democracies. Also both states had horrible human rights records in both the 80s and the 90s, regardless of regime.]]>

  14. The article is disappointing because it doesn’t investigate/interrogate any reasons for the responses. My own guess is that this is a result of democracy failing to produce desired results. From Greece voting in a government against austerity, then again winning a referendum against austerity and then being forced into more austerity to the US voting for hope and change and not getting it, the always present gap between promises of the political system and actual results seems to be growing. I think it’s partially by design: capitalist democracies are designed to limit democracy by first enshrining property rights. For actual data (not my bullshit) on the US, google “Princeton oligarchy study”.

  15. < ![CDATA[The article is disappointing because it doesn't investigate/interrogate any reasons for the responses. My own guess is that this is a result of democracy failing to produce desired results. From Greece voting in a government against austerity, then again winning a referendum against austerity and then being forced into more austerity to the US voting for hope and change and not getting it, the always present gap between promises of the political system and actual results seems to be growing. I think it's partially by design: capitalist democracies are designed to limit democracy by first enshrining property rights. For actual data (not my bullshit) on the US, google "Princeton oligarchy study".]]>