This weekend I caught up on a couple Marvel films that lost out to parenting needs over the last year or so.

Ant-Man
I loved it. So much fun, such good use of SFX to make all of the shrinking/growing action compelling and watchable. I’ve been a Paul Rudd fan for a while, and I think it’s awesome to see him in the Marvel lineup as this character. I was also amazed that the film made Ant-Man look cool; honestly, I never cared at all for the character before this. I will say that having Scott and Hope kiss at the end felt contrived and unnecessary. Also loses a few points for including Peggy Carter but having her fail the Sexy Lamp Test.

Deadpool
Enjoyed the film and felt Reynolds was absolutely the perfect cast. I was also happy to see Morena Baccarin in such a high-profile film (and likely to see her show up in sequels). That said, this is a pretty bro-tastic film, and so my enjoyment is a little bittersweet. Also, I felt their take on Colossus was 100% wrong.

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26 thoughts on “This weekend I caught up on a couple Marvel films that lost out to parenting needs over the last year or so.

  1. Agreed entire on Ant-Man. I totally loved it, but that kiss at the end was like a giant turd being served as dessert for a wonderful dinner. It was totally unearned. She’d barely come to respect him by the end. It’s not like she was playing some restrained interest in him. For that matter, he wasn’t playing that interested in her, either. So disappointing!

    Also agreed on Deadpool except I disagree about everything negative. Especially “wrong” Colossus. My brother said that too. But you know, it’s our split about whether you can have a “true” version of a character.

  2. < ![CDATA[Agreed entire on Ant-Man. I totally loved it, but that kiss at the end was like a giant turd being served as dessert for a wonderful dinner. It was totally unearned. She’d barely come to respect him by the end. It’s not like she was playing some restrained interest in him. For that matter, he wasn’t playing that interested in her, either. So disappointing!
    Also agreed on Deadpool except I disagree about everything negative. Especially “wrong” Colossus. My brother said that too. But you know, it’s our split about whether you can have a “true” version of a character.]]>

  3. Robert Bohl But you know, it’s our split about whether you can have a “true” version of a character.

    What? No. I never said anything about “true”. I just didn’t like their take on him.

    I also thought it was goofy that he was in steel form 100% of the time.

  4. < ![CDATA[Robert Bohl But you know, it’s our split about whether you can have a “true” version of a character.
    What? No. I never said anything about “true”. I just didn’t like their take on him.
    I also thought it was goofy that he was in steel form 100% of the time.]]>

  5. Well, to say the take is “wrong” suggests there’s a “right.” That’s our old thing, is what I mean. There’s no “wrong” Colossus, to me. Give him Poochie the Dog’s personality and as long as the interpretation was good I’d be fine with that.

  6. < ![CDATA[Well, to say the take is "wrong" suggests there's a "right." That's our old thing, is what I mean. There's no "wrong" Colossus, to me. Give him Poochie the Dog's personality and as long as the interpretation was good I'd be fine with that.]]>

  7. Haven’t seen this version of Colossus, but I’ll stand my ground when I say that there is a “correct” and “incorrect” portrayal of characters. I think Deadpool’s success backs that up. Apparently, it is a very right portrayal of him and is exactly what fans view as his character… as opposed to their other option.

  8. < ![CDATA[Haven't seen this version of Colossus, but I'll stand my ground when I say that there is a "correct" and "incorrect" portrayal of characters. I think Deadpool's success backs that up. Apparently, it is a very right portrayal of him and is exactly what fans view as his character... as opposed to their other option.]]>

  9. I agree with one of those options.
    There is a point in which delineation is too much and the character is no longer the character they claim to be.

    Let’s take Storm.
    Let’s make her a blonde Caucasian. Additionally, she’ll have a ditsy and bubbly personality. Let’s also make her lazy and not care that she litters or pollutes the earth.

    That’s not a correct interpretation of Storm.
    She’s an entirely new character that I happened to give the same name and powers.

  10. < ![CDATA[I agree with one of those options. There is a point in which delineation is too much and the character is no longer the character they claim to be. Let's take Storm. Let's make her a blonde Caucasian. Additionally, she'll have a ditsy and bubbly personality. Let's also make her lazy and not care that she litters or pollutes the earth. That's not a correct interpretation of Storm. She's an entirely new character that I happened to give the same name and powers.]]>

  11. Good points on both films Mark Delsing​. I have never read Ant-Man comics, but also loved the film. Deadpool was fun as a mindless action romp, but again I haven’t actually read any of his titles. I enjoyed the 4th wall being broken, but I agree with it being a bit bro-tastic.

  12. < ![CDATA[Good points on both films Mark Delsing​. I have never read Ant-Man comics, but also loved the film. Deadpool was fun as a mindless action romp, but again I haven't actually read any of his titles. I enjoyed the 4th wall being broken, but I agree with it being a bit bro-tastic.]]>

  13. Robert Bohl It’s misleading.
    I’m okay with someone taking a new direction with a concept… but don’t call it by the same name.

    Kurt Busiek’s Astro City is a GREAT example.
    They were the same character concepts and unashamedly so… but they gave them new names and altered the powers just enough to make them their own.

    There’s a line of demarcation in which they are no longer the same character, and I believe you already consented to that.

    So I suppose now the discussion is how much delineation must there be before you ought to give them a life of their own… starting, more specifically, with a name of their own.

  14. < ![CDATA[Robert Bohl It's misleading. I'm okay with someone taking a new direction with a concept... but don't call it by the same name. Kurt Busiek's Astro City is a GREAT example. They were the same character concepts and unashamedly so... but they gave them new names and altered the powers just enough to make them their own. There's a line of demarcation in which they are no longer the same character, and I believe you already consented to that. So I suppose now the discussion is how much delineation must there be before you ought to give them a life of their own... starting, more specifically, with a name of their own.]]>

  15. James, to me there’s no line so why bother drawing one? Or, rather, just acknowledge that everyone has their own line and get comfortable with that. Instead of saying Colossus is wrong, say Colossus isn’t done the way I like him. That’s accurate, and humble.

  16. < ![CDATA[James, to me there's no line so why bother drawing one? Or, rather, just acknowledge that everyone has their own line and get comfortable with that. Instead of saying Colossus is wrong, say Colossus isn't done the way I like him. That's accurate, and humble.]]>

  17. I think it’s a sort of Ship of Theseus question that I don’t have a good answer to, at any rate. If you change their appearance, is it the same character? Their powers? Their history? Their personality? Their name?

  18. < ![CDATA[I think it's a sort of Ship of Theseus question that I don't have a good answer to, at any rate. If you change their appearance, is it the same character? Their powers? Their history? Their personality? Their name?]]>

  19. Robert Bohl
    , before I continue this, I want to set a tone that I know is lost in text. I take no offense to your disagreement. I fully respect you as a person. Far too often, friendly disagreeing discussions can damage when it never needed to. This is my disclaimer and I hope to sit across the table from you and roll some dice someday.

    That being said, I disagree.

    To put my rebuttal in a better light as to why there must be a line:
    Your own statement. By stating there is no line, you draw a line. It’s either your definition of approaching characters or it’s an incorrect one.

    By your own statement, you should be comfortable with someone saying “That’s not Colossus.”

  20. < ![CDATA[Robert Bohl , before I continue this, I want to set a tone that I know is lost in text. I take no offense to your disagreement. I fully respect you as a person. Far too often, friendly disagreeing discussions can damage when it never needed to. This is my disclaimer and I hope to sit across the table from you and roll some dice someday. That being said, I disagree. To put my rebuttal in a better light as to why there must be a line: Your own statement. By stating there is no line, you draw a line. It's either your definition of approaching characters or it's an incorrect one. By your own statement, you should be comfortable with someone saying "That's not Colossus."]]>

  21. Thanks for the framing, James. I agree that I respect you too. Thanks for that again.

    It’s possible to not have a line. I don’t have a line. If there’s a line it doesn’t exist outside anyone’s head. So you can say “Colossus is wrong for me” but not “Colossus is wrong.”

  22. < ![CDATA[Thanks for the framing, James. I agree that I respect you too. Thanks for that again. It's possible to not have a line. I don't have a line. If there's a line it doesn't exist outside anyone's head. So you can say "Colossus is wrong for me" but not "Colossus is wrong."]]>

  23. Robert Bohl: Yeah, I find radical reinterpretations to be really interesting! (It’s one big thing that drew me to that comics draft I was talking about. Even if I didn’t have many wild reinterpretations, I loved seeing what folks came up with.)

  24. < ![CDATA[Robert Bohl: Yeah, I find radical reinterpretations to be really interesting! (It's one big thing that drew me to that comics draft I was talking about. Even if I didn't have many wild reinterpretations, I loved seeing what folks came up with.)]]>

  25. Robert Bohl I can’t believe you managed to co-opt my post for yet another go-round of what boils down to “Well, that’s just your opinion, man.” I’m closing comments.

    I found the Colossus character design to be grimy and anatomically weird. Add the voice of a 65-year-old and he just felt cartoony; even too cartoony for a Deadpool movie.

  26. < ![CDATA[Robert Bohl I can't believe you managed to co-opt my post for yet another go-round of what boils down to "Well, that's just your opinion, man." I'm closing comments. I found the Colossus character design to be grimy and anatomically weird. Add the voice of a 65-year-old and he just felt cartoony; even too cartoony for a Deadpool movie.]]>