Burning Wheel at Chicago Gameday 43

For my event at Gameday 43, I ran a Burning Wheel scenario that I titled, “Devil Take the Hindmost”; the PCs were all Great Wolves from the Monster Burner. The starting situation is that the pack has been devastated by an attack by the orcs who have been ravaging the forest all season; the dominants have been killed, and the pups have been captured, eventually to be broken and added to the orc legions. With the pack’s numbers depleted, the remaining wolves have allowed some outcasts to return in order to rebuild the pack again and, hopefully, retrieve the pups.

I had three players — Joe Beason, Tim Jensen , and Willow Palecek — who played, respectively: Thunder, a beloved uncle of the pack; Blood-of-Fire, a spirit-hunter returned home; and Greyfur, a nine(!) lifepath elder wolf and master hunter who is missing an eye. There was a fourth player signed up, but they were called away by a work emergency. I had five PCs ready, so there was a lone wolf who went unused and an orc legion defector that ended up being an NPC.

(Yes, I took Blood-of-Fire’s concept from the MonBu. Even his mom, Splay-Tooth, was in play. Hey, great artists steal.)

I had provided one belief for each PC and had the players write two more; one about the situation and one about another PC. Attention Paul Beakley: it did not take two hours! Granted, they’d all played BW before.

We played for about four hours with a mid-session break to do artha awards. I had started them each with one fate and one persona and wanted to 1) give them a chance to earn more and 2) showcase a bit of the BIT-artha cycle.

Overall, the session went well. I think this was probably the tightest, grabbiest scenario I’ve yet to produce for a BW one-shot. Everyone seemed to have a pretty clear idea of what was at stake and what they wanted to do next. Interestingly, what I thought would be the biggest conflict — Who gets to be dominant now? — was pretty much resolved with the first roll. We opted for a straight versus rather than a full-blown DoW, as neither Tim nor Willow (the players involved) wanted to start the session with a long conflict. I was a little worried about this afterwards, but as I debriefed with Joe, he mentioned that he wasn’t all that interested in that issue at all, so quick resolution of that question was a feature for him, not a bug. (Joe was all about rescuing the pups!)

So, for the most part, the session focused upon the quest to find and rescue the pups from the hands of the orcs. In the process, one of the other pregens was brought in: Worg, the defector from the orc horde (who the players renamed Rage-of-Moon, his true wolf pack name). This was nifty scene, as Joe had Thunder howl from a rise at the entire orc horde, calling for Rage-of-Moon to remember his wolf name and come return to the pack. He managed to hit Ob6, prompting Worg/Rage-of-Moon to break off right then and there and “come home”. There was also a great Enmity Clause when Willow tried to Circle up an elven hunter to help them (the pups were in a Black Metal cage, and wolves don’t have opposable thumbs). Turns out it was the elf that took Greyfur’s eye (and she his arm)! Old enemies who spat insults at each other and parted ways after an inconclusive melee (i.e., a tied Bloody Versus with light and superficial wounds).

They eventually managed to rescue the pups by infiltrating the horde as prisoners of Rage-of-Moon, intimidating an orc handler, and stunning most of the surrounding worgs with Blood-of-Fire howling the words of Grandfather (i.e., Primal Bark, which is a seriously badass skill).

The downside is that the players failed test a lot, which is kind of how things work a lot of the time in BW, and in some ways found that frustrating. Willow assured me that she felt all of the tests and Obs I called for were totally appropriate, but the simple act of failing the tests was frustrating for her. (She was also very tired, as she and Tim get up very early in order to make the drive down from Madison, and so was fading fast from about the mid-session break onward.) Still, I think that I got rules right and set good obstacles, and made sure that tests always moved the game forward.

I’d like the run the scenario again, in which case I would change a few things.

First off, I think the PCs could be tweaked a bit. Making a whole group of wolves is hard, even when including all of the Great Wolf settings, as there ends up being a lot of skill and trait overlap. I might swap some skill pints around, making sure I use General points for outside-the-box skills more often than I did, as well as perhaps specialize each wolf a bit more.

Next, having only three out of the five pregens in play narrowed the focus of the game quite a bit. I might re-think some of the relationships, as well as prioritize the PCs, e.g., “If there are only three players, offer them this subset of characters.”

I also would spend more time introducing the characters and their various components. I think since I knew this group was familiar with BW, I kind of blew through the intro so we could get paying. As a consequence, the PCs’ traits and instincts didn’t really come up all that often. I also don’t think everyone (myself included) was as up-to-speed on wolf-specific skills and traits as they should have been.

Lastly, I had wanted the issue of the orcs having largely devastated the forest, and thus consuming most of the available food, a bigger deal than it was. I think I might start the whole group with a default +1 Ob for being half-starved, and offer that as one problem they might feel compelled to address right off the bat.

Hopefully, should I make it to Forge Midwest this year, I’ll tweak this scenario and run it there once or twice. And then I can revise it once the Codex comes out…

In the attached picture, we can see Joe post-session, most likely writing angry fanfic about Splay-Tooth.

#chicagogameday   #chicagogameday43

28 thoughts on “Burning Wheel at Chicago Gameday 43

  1. This sounds terrific. Also agreed that the player facing experience of one shot BW can be frustrating. Tbh I feel like more recent games (ie good PbtA, run well) moves the fiction so much faster.

  2. < ![CDATA[This sounds terrific. Also agreed that the player facing experience of one shot BW can be frustrating. Tbh I feel like more recent games (ie good PbtA, run well) moves the fiction so much faster.]]>

  3. Paul Beakley I feel like we moved at a pretty good clip, honestly. Maybe PbtA games have more frequent “succeed, but at a cost” results built in than BW?

    TBH, the old coot in me thinks that maybe people are sort of spoiled by them newfangled PbtA games. The players in this event actively chose a lot of “big” intents, IMO, and so the odds were against them. Maybe I’m biased by the 3LP campaign I’m in right now, but I wondered why they were trying to eat the whole cow at once instead of taking smaller bites.

    But, then again, playing BW is an art; it takes practice. PbtA feels, IMO, a lot more forgiving; do whatever and the moves will handle it.

  4. < ![CDATA[Paul Beakley I feel like we moved at a pretty good clip, honestly. Maybe PbtA games have more frequent "succeed, but at a cost" results built in than BW? TBH, the old coot in me thinks that maybe people are sort of spoiled by them newfangled PbtA games. The players in this event actively chose a lot of "big" intents, IMO, and so the odds were against them. Maybe I'm biased by the 3LP campaign I'm in right now, but I wondered why they were trying to eat the whole cow at once instead of taking smaller bites. But, then again, playing BW is an art; it takes practice. PbtA feels, IMO, a lot more forgiving; do whatever and the moves will handle it.]]>

  5. I’m not even sure what “spoiled” means in context with hobby time. Should we be making things harder on ourselves on purpose? I mean maybe, right? I’ve got a bike with only one gear and it’s harder to ride than my others, and it’s still something I want to experience. Totally just thinking out loud here, which I’m happy to do in my own thread and stop pooping on your lawn.

  6. < ![CDATA[I'm not even sure what "spoiled" means in context with hobby time. Should we be making things harder on ourselves on purpose? I mean maybe, right? I've got a bike with only one gear and it's harder to ride than my others, and it's still something I want to experience. Totally just thinking out loud here, which I'm happy to do in my own thread and stop pooping on your lawn.]]>

  7. Paul Beakley That why I said it was “the old coot in me” saying that. 🙂 A less provocative version might be that if a player has gotten used to games where there is a lot of latitude and readily-available awesomeness, they are going to experience a disconnect when playing most setups of BW. Same sort of thing that happens when someone who is used to playing latter-day D&D (all about the fights, TPKs are rare) plays some old-school D&D (fights are to be avoided, don’t get too attached to your 1st-level PCs). And vice-versa.

    That’s my theory, at least.

  8. < ![CDATA[Paul Beakley That why I said it was "the old coot in me" saying that. 🙂 A less provocative version might be that if a player has gotten used to games where there is a lot of latitude and readily-available awesomeness, they are going to experience a disconnect when playing most setups of BW. Same sort of thing that happens when someone who is used to playing latter-day D&D (all about the fights, TPKs are rare) plays some old-school D&D (fights are to be avoided, don't get too attached to your 1st-level PCs). And vice-versa. That's my theory, at least.]]>

  9. I’m struck by your thought about our beliefs were too grand. It never occurred to me to dial back on SAVE THE PUPS. I wonder how it would have played if I had picked something smaller. “The pups must be saved; I will gather allies.” May have made for a better BW experience, but maybe not a better one-shot experience?

  10. < ![CDATA[I'm struck by your thought about our beliefs were too grand. It never occurred to me to dial back on SAVE THE PUPS. I wonder how it would have played if I had picked something smaller. "The pups must be saved; I will gather allies." May have made for a better BW experience, but maybe not a better one-shot experience?]]>

  11. Joe Beason It wasn’t your beliefs that were too grand, IMO, it was your intents. (Your beliefs were great!) Meaning, I felt like — maybe — you guys were trying to do really big things in a single roll, whereas it would maybe have been less failure-y if you’d scaled down your intents into more manageable pieces. Like, maybe spend some time sorting the orc encampment, see if there is a schedule for when the pups are taken out of the cage or fed, see if you can blend into the horde and sneak the pups out, talk with Ghost to see if he could have aided you with spells, barter with the elf hunter to see if they will help and at what price, and so on.

    That, or I was just not “failing you forward” enough.

  12. < ![CDATA[Joe Beason It wasn't your beliefs that were too grand, IMO, it was your intents. (Your beliefs were great!) Meaning, I felt like — maybe — you guys were trying to do really big things in a single roll, whereas it would maybe have been less failure-y if you’d scaled down your intents into more manageable pieces. Like, maybe spend some time sorting the orc encampment, see if there is a schedule for when the pups are taken out of the cage or fed, see if you can blend into the horde and sneak the pups out, talk with Ghost to see if he could have aided you with spells, barter with the elf hunter to see if they will help and at what price, and so on.
    That, or I was just not “failing you forward” enough.]]>

  13. I’m delighted to hear tell of this. Thanks for sharing, and fueling my cheerful imagination.

    (I am starting to realize that I love games where everyone is – in some fashion or another – playing animals.)

  14. < ![CDATA[I'm delighted to hear tell of this. Thanks for sharing, and fueling my cheerful imagination. (I am starting to realize that I love games where everyone is – in some fashion or another – playing animals.)]]>